Monday, April 16, 2007

Virginia Tech Shooting

Obviously, I wouldn't have named the post below "Optimism Monday" had I seen the story from Virginia Tech. My thoughts go back to the sniper in that university clock tower in Texas. What a grim story today. Those are numbers you'd get from a car bomb in Iraq. Now, I've got to put it aside and write comedy. These are the days I pay for having this job.


At 10:30 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bill, according to one article, the suspected shooter is William Morva. Googled him and got this Wiki entry. Formerly convicted of murder in the killing of a sheriff's deputy. Looks like he should still be in prison. May have an escaped convict here:

At 1:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said... need to check the dates on that...different day...different shooter.

My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone involved in this. Our country is in mourning and Bill, I agree...this brings car bombing a LOT closer to home...sigh.

At 2:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carol, I know that. There was an AP article this morning about the V-Tech incident that named him as the shooter (apparently wrongly so). My point was that according to the articles linked on that Wiki entry, they guy should have still been in custody for the prior incidents.

At 2:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Butch, I guess I am just not understanding what you are trying to say. I don't see what the William Morva story has to do with this except for the fact that it happened near the Virginia Tech campus.

Not trying to be difficult here....just not understanding.

I remember Texas tower shooting...we discussed it heavily in Modern Problems class in high school. I can remember thinking that it was more proof of how screwed up our country was with all the assassinations, the protests, the war, etc. Sounds a lot like now....different names, different places.

At 4:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carol, one of the first stories about TODAY'S incident this morning named William Morva as the gunman in TODAY'S incident. It was corrected quickly thereafter. I typed the above after reading the article and before the correction was made.

At 12:17 AM, Blogger LaurelhurstDad said...

I'm very impressed that boy Butch didn't say that his alleged shooter (whom he wrongly identifies) was a Democrat.

Good boy, Butch.

At 12:42 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

laurel, way to be the first to subletly charge this tragedy with political agendas.

butch, in your post you mentioned the wikipedia article. Which had the correct dates. Which you should have known before posting it. You were wrong. Interesting to see how you fell into a dance of denialbility over that simple fact.

At 8:11 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You all still don't get it. Moving on....not important.

At 12:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Frame-up, Virginia is for Violence Day + 1: Rash Lamebrain insists his listeners must remember, (overnight, until their next dosage of him tomorrow), that this was merely an evil act of one lone gunman, and says nothing about and has nothing to do with American society's currents.
Not advancing the story, MSNBC frames the story as a statistical artifact in the random conflation of easy gun access crossed with the (intrinsic?) agitated and unstable psychology of some people.
Governor Kulongoski, speaking with Thom Hartmann at 8:00 am on KPOJ 620 AM, proposed that we set forward an educating discussion of civics and civil order. As his diagnosis from these social symptoms shows need for remedial treatment of root causes. In that, Virginia is for Violence Day is indicative of the shout-violence disorder attitude in American society, and occurred coincident with a turning point, the fever breaking, represented in the decapitation of Imus among stalk-radio talkers and their deluded audience victims of massmind hate-mouth and LIARS.

So what is this 'agitated and unstable psychology of some people' you speak of, and where does psychology come from, and how is it agitated and destabilized? Once upon a time on a quiet October evening in New Jersey, a whole town of people collectively panicked in their homes, ran out their doors into the streets, trashing property and smashing each other to escape the town, some in their cars crashing off the highways, and all told, one died and many were injured and rampant damage was done. What caused such agitated and unstable (mass) psychology was: They all had been listening to the same mind programming on their radios, at home. A 'radio play' entertainment, which they thought was real news, (since it came on the radio), despite the fact that it was broadcasting descriptions of the scene in their town which did not match the actual scene in their town, which they could see when they stepped outside their homes and looked around -- Orsen Welles' radio production of The War of the Worlds, Halloween night, 1938.

Also in the 1930s, federal authorities conducted tests of radio broadcasting to measure whether its disembodied voice could induce any sort of mass hypnosis, if it tried with sing-song monotone to hypnotize methodically, and the test results found that it could. Authorities termed the results, "success." Also in the 1930s, President FDR spoke in weekly radio broadcasts he called Fireside Chats, and once said that 'the only thing people have to fear is fear itself.' Which was very calming. Also in the 1930s, when first most homes had radio receivers, Fuhrer Hitler spoke in fire-breathing oratory, and Father Coughlin spoke in dogmatic Catholic doxologic, both in radio broadcasts and both saying, 'hatefully blame the Jews, wherever you might find some or anyones you think seems to you to be some.' Which is very agitating.

Early AP news reports, while TV broadcasts showed rubble and blood-soaked bodies, after the April 19, 1995, OK City federal building bombing on a Patriot's Day, said an olive-complexion man wearing a turban booked a plane flight from OK City to Chicago, and someone 'fitting the description' was extradited from London back for questioning, while a nondescript town's sheriff's jail north of OK City held Timothy McVeigh in custody for a lack of paperwork requested when a trooper noticed and stopped him driving with a broken taillight. Early AP news reports, while TV broadcasts reviewed bodies falling down beside the mostly undamaged structure, said olive-complexion men wearing turbans piloted plane flights into NYC's Twin Towers, soon before the buildings exploded in vast consuming clouds of microdust. That was some September 11 anniversary of the groundbreaking of the Pentagon.

Where does AP get the news it sends on its wire service to all the newspapers and broadcasters which comprise the mass media? AP says that certain people at the intelligence agencies tell it the news, 'spokes-spooks,' I guess you'd call them. 'Spooks' is slang for 'spies,' but the news they tell spooks many people who all fear the fear of feeling that terror haunts in uninformed psychology.

When society's consensus amounts to some massmind of us, and survey results show the least informed minds are listeners to FUXnews and Rash Lamebrain radio broadcasting, and a massmind must mean there is a mass psychology, then let's blame former CIA-paid asset Saddam Hussein who jilted all the shovey SUV owners at the oil altar, get our violence going one day in Virginia and start torture killing humankind around the world, what say you?

At 12:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Debbie Schlussel suspected VA Tech shooter might be a "Paki," part of "terrorist attack" -- Schlussel wrote, "The murderer has been identified by law enforcement and media reports as a young Asian male," adding, "The Virginia Tech campus has a very large Muslim community, many of which are from Pakistan." She continued: "Pakis are considered 'Asian.' " Read more

Lamebrain lashes out at Media Matters -- Discussing the Don Imus controversy, Lamebrain said that the purpose of Media Matters is to "kill conservative information, which it labels 'misinformation,' " based on "the template [that] conservatives are racist, and as such they have to be banned." He also asserted, "I'm not going to let the Democrat Party or the left or some lackey watchdog group or a couple of race hustlers dictate my speech." Read more.

At 4:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a service to whoever would have listened to LIARS Larson today, (4/17), but could not, because they were working, or because hearing him they puke, the sense of LIARS you missed is summarized here:

LIARS and his owner, Paul Allen, and the callers and all the sponsors CELEBRATED LOUDLY that they could repeat all the gruesome details of another bloody gun violence atrocity and gain a goose, and boost, to shout-hate radio and TV ratings, and at the same time, with a two-fer bullet topic, LOUDLY put liberals and common folks on threatened notice that gunslingers and gunmongers can spit a lot more lead at anyone who advocates to pass a law to regulate and register the sale of Weapons of Wussie Destruction, their guns.

Of course, the sponsors who buy advertising time, and so keep LIARS on the air, got the best of the death-delighting deal, since they are all armed to the teeth to protect themselves against customers coming in their stores.

Today's guest callers, who gloated in the gore along with LIARS, included Josh Marquis and C.W. Jensen, and a special Congratulations-on-your-ratings-bump email was read on-air from Don McIntire.

In other news of KXL's shout-hate broadcast celebrities: On O'Reilly Factor, Bruce alleged left-wing hit list of conservative media figures --
On the April 16 edition of his television show, Bill O'Reilly invited Fox News contributor Tammy Bruce to comment on the firing of Don Imus, which, according to O'Reilly, "has metastasized into an ideological witch-hunt by evil forces." Bruce asserted that "small groups of people" are engaged in an "effort" to "silence[]" and "destroy[]" "people who are not intimidated" and that these groups "have a list of individuals that are to be targeted."

At 4:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also, too, what is NOT in the newspapers or broadcasters rehashed reports:

Thoughts on Virginia Tech, by Rob Kall.

At 4:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What happened in Virginia is sad, yes.

But everything these days is political. Bush was elected, and the NRA had 'an office in the White House'.

Bush himself is responsible for the deaths of dozens and dozens of people EVERY SINGLE DAY.

Is it less a crime when you order your army to slaughter innocent people for no reason other than your lust for power, and wealth for you and your friends?

Maybe a sane gun control program would not have stopped this tragic event, but many others would have been.

At 8:56 PM, Blogger LaurelhurstDad said...

I have to agree with the previous Anonymous writer.

No matter how terrible any random act of violence is, it doesn’t compare to the shredding of our country’s rights, the humiliation of our country on the world stage, and the mass killings in our country’s name that this administration has brought on us.

There have always been and will always be individuals who seek fame by slaughtering others in mindless acts. It is far, far worse for an individual to do it in our country’s name, and only for his own sense of satisfaction and the enrichment of his friends.

There are levels of evil, and Bush stands alone in our times as the epitome of evil.

At 8:58 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not standing "alone" enough!

Witness all his fear-frozen-psycho enablers, shouting, burping, begging everyone to: look the other way, look back ten years ago, or look at how they'd suffer without self-identity or job (for them, the same thing), when Bush goes down with them clinging to his apron strings.

At 4:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a service to whoever would have listened to LIARS Larson today, (4/19), but could not, because they were working, or because hearing him they puke, the sense of LIARS you missed is summarized here:

Entertainer LIARS Larson in the Dept. of the Fictional, not a bona fide News reporter, not a paid employee of any News Dept., not legitimately credentialed Press, no way no how, spent a half-a-broadcast-hour today -- call it $2,000 in unmarked bills -- to Ted Wheeler, Multnomah County Commission Chairman, who one would suppose was on the clock, at his desk and doing 'scrutinizing' work the people's taxes pay him for. This thousands-dollar freebie broadcast time was spent in full-out LIARS lobbying, to 'correct' and 're-direct' the proposed county budget-set 'mistakes' which fascist LIARS dictated were unacceptable decisions made by Chairman Wheeler. Let alone that broadcast time donations not directed by some News Department constitutes an unreported reelection campaign contribution to the politician, the nearer issue might be that LIARS is unregistered and does undocumented lobbying.

Of course, to hear the commissioner's budget proposal 'report,' privy only to the small and small-minded LIARS audience, a listener had already heard two hours of demeaning slurs against all working News Directors who might re-play, re-sift, re-hash, the catastrophic student killings this week out the barrel of the guns promoted by LIARS; and many many minutes of continuing LIARS incitements urging everyone to get a gun and be the law unto themself fomenting civil insurrections.

LIARS programming was so chock-full of flaming crazy issues, that there wasn't any time (nor inclination) to simply mention that the Republican US Attorney General faced Congresspersons' questioning, a little bit today, testifying under oath and lying through his teeth, as LIARS covered it up.

These politically partisan stalk-radio talk programmers ought to air with only audience donations, and no commercial sponsorship so that customers can shop in retail establishments without worrying their patronage is being spent for ads supporting broadcast politics the customer vehemently opposes. At least, retailers proud to sponsor LIARS and that ilk of broadcast civic slander, should put a placard in their window, warning customers their purchase dollar goes partly into fascist politics.

At 10:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

LIARS Larson's hero, Rash Lamebrain said Virginia Tech shooter "had to be a liberal" -- On the April 19 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, host Rush Limbaugh declared that the perpetrator of the April 16 Virginia Tech shootings "had to be a liberal," adding: "You start railing against the rich, and all this other -- this guy's a liberal. He was turned into a liberal somewhere along the line. So it's a liberal that committed this act." Limbaugh then complained, in a possible reference to Media Matters for America, that "Now the drive-bys will read on a website that I'm attacking liberalism by comparing this guy to them. That's exactly what they do every day, ladies and gentlemen. I'm just pointing out a fact. I am making no extrapolation."

It is unbelievable how stupid conservatism is.

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